and i wouldn't say that washington is totally devoid of people that we n respect. there's a guy who came from a broken family, went to good schools, became president. i mean, i don't agree with him. >> that's the first nice thing you said about baracobama. >> i don't agree with him, i don't like his policies, don't like the directions. >> and the season bringing up. stop it, the guy came from nothing ands' president. >> how many times have i told you at, hear the love. >> i don't, i don't hate him. i hate his policies, but i will say this, you know, this is a guy who's comtted to that agenda. he believes in it. >> and you might even consider instead, charlie, saying that you dislike his policies rather than hating-- >> i hate hisis policies. >> what's the point. >> and, but charlie has de-- >> and great human being, although with politics-- neil, without doing any additional finger pointing, we ought to acknoed the effect what you're doing with the special and interviewing american heroes is ao praising public servants, people whose jobs and careers is to serve us,